Make a brief prediction about why you think apothecaries in London are being murdered. Remember, predications are just educated guesses based on what you've already read. Why do you think what you think? What evidence is in the book so far to drive you to make that prediction? Please don’t wait until the end to answer this and spoil it for others.
The Blackthorn Key
Work from the bottom up--Response 1 first and Response 13 last.
I think that the reason that the Cult of The Archangels is killing apothecaries is because like Oswyn Colthrust said on page 182 they want power, “‘That’s what the Cult of the Archangel is looking for,’ he said. ‘The power to god himself. Whatever this ‘fire’ is, clearly, they believe it’s the key to unlocking it.’ His eyes narrowed. ‘So that’s why the Cult is torturing it’s victims. These aren’t sacrifices they’re interrogations. They must think these men know where the fire is.’” The thing is it is not just normal power they want like overthrowing the king they want the power of God himself so that they could overthrow the world. Maybe, I doubt it, but it is a good guess.
ReplyDeleteYes, it's a good guess, Gabby! I wonder what can be so powerful that someone could overthrow the world.
DeleteI think that the Apothecaries in London are being murdered because they all know something about the cult of the Archangels and they can't share about it. I think this because in the book it says “Change is coming.’ The apothecary had said exactly the same thing.” I think that the Apothecaries can all tell that someone a is killing the other Apothecaries. Also, I think that someone is attacking the Apothecaries before it murders them. I know this because in the book it says,”Master Benedict looked like he'd just come back from a war.”I think that all of the Apothecaries know something about the cult of the Archangels.I also think that the cult want something, for example in the book it says,” ‘ But our remedies,through miraculous,are drawn only from the truths that God has given to man. There are other truths,greater truths, that Our Lord reserves for His heavenly host alone. And those wonders, Christopher, would make our earthly miracles hide in shame.’ “ ‘ That's what the cult of the Archangel is looking for’ he said. ‘ The power of God Himself.” I think that the cult is looking for power
ReplyDeleteHaley, the "Change is coming" quote made me sort of shiver--it's great foreshadowing.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, I think apothecaries in London are being murdered for their talent in making spells and for their knowledge. I come to believe that Nathaniel Stubb is the one murdering apothecaries in London. I believe this because on page 26 it states, “Did you hear?” Stubb said. “There’s been another murder.” He smiled.” People who smile at death are probably the one’s killing everyone. From what I’ve read, I think Stubb will go far lengths to get what he wants. Stubb either wants revenge or needs a type of ingredient to make something.
I think the “Cult of the Archangel” is murdering apothecary’s in London. I also think that Nathaniel Stubb is working with the “Cult of the Archangel” secretly. I don’t think apothecary’s are getting killed randomly either. According to the text it says, “Three of the six were right, Benedict, … We can no longer tell ourselves this is a coincidence. If Stubb can figure us out there is only a matter of time before others do.” This shows that the “random” murders aren’t so random anymore. Next, I think that apothecary’s are getting killed because they know something like a code. I think that the murder is trying to decipher the code and is going to each apothecary to try and unlock the code. If the apothecary doesn’t say what it is I think that the murder is burning them until they either release the code or until they die. I think this because on page 85 a man says “God’s wrath will burn us all!” I think that this shows us the “Cult of the Archangel” is burning apothecary’s. All in all, I think that the “Cult of the Archangel” and Nathaniel Stubb are working together to unlock a code only apothecary’s know.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think the code may reveal, Ellie? I love your predictions and thoughts. All are well supported with evidence from the book. you're on the right track, but there are some surprises. Of course, it would'nt be any fun if there weren't.
DeleteI think that the apothecaries are being murdered because of their talents. The remedies and codes they use could be seen as a threat, even though they make medicines to help people others could see it as dangerous. I feel like Nathaniel Stubb is working for the so called “Cult Of Archangels” because on page 26 it says “Did you hear?’ Stubb said. ‘There’s been another murder.’ He smiled. ‘But perhaps you already knew that.” While reading this sentence I get that feeling that there's nothing good coming from Stubb, In the text it says “He Smiled.” Out of all the books I've read the villains are the only ones who smile while mentioning death, so based on passed readings I think Nathaniel Stubb is part of these murders.“The Cult Of Archangels” I feel like is killing the apothecary for a reason, maybe they need information or are against their practices. Overall, I predict that the Nathaniel Stubb is a part of “The Cult Of Archangels” and they are killing the apothecary's because they see them as a threat and think that they are dangerous.
ReplyDeleteI predict that the apothecaries in London are being murdered because the person who wants them killed doesn't want them to make healing items. I can prove this because looking back apothecaries sell medicines and prepare them. So, no apothecaries equal no medicine.No medicine equals no healing and mending which equals more fatalities. From this the person who wants them killed can overpower the throne because everyone could get really sick and weak. Those are the things I predict about why the apothecaries in London are being murdered.
ReplyDeleteConnor, that is such an interesting predicition, and you support it well.
DeleteI predict that the apothecaries in London are being murdered by another apothecary. I think that the murderer is Nathaniel Stubb. He is looking for a special recipe for a great cure that someone has developed. I’m guessing that it is Stubb because he went to Master Benedict to tell him about the recent murder, and he knew that Benedict knew the person. On page 41, Stubb is trying to get Master Benedict to participate in what he is doing when he says, “Perhaps gold will, then. With the right connections, the right backing, we could make a fortune-.” Master Benedict said, “Money is not the issue, I have no part in any of this. You have the wrong man.” Stubbs says, “Pretend all you like. You’ll choose one way or the other.” Master Benedict is then hurt after refusing to help Stubb and he won’t tell Christopher who hurt him because he is afraid that Christopher might be harmed. This is why I predict that the murderer is Nathaniel Stubb.
ReplyDeleteJaylee, you really back up your predictions well here. Stubb does seem like a likely villain.
DeleteI predict that the apothecaries are being murdered because someone doesn't have what they have. I think that they keep killing them because the murderers want the supplies that the apothecaries have. I personally think that it is Nathaniel Stubb, because he mentioned the murder and smiled. Also he wants to buy Blackthorn's shop because he gets more business than Stubb. This could relate to Stubb being jealous of the other apothecaries so he wants to take them out so there is no other competition. Mr. Stubb is smart though and that is why I think he has the Cult Of Archangels doing all the dirty work so he doesn't get into trouble.
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ReplyDeleteI predict that the apothecaries are being murdered because the killers are not getting certain information out of them. I think that the murderers want to know something that apothecaries know and the apothecaries are not willing to tell them. I think this because the title of the book is the Blackthorn Key. I predict that the murderers are trying to find information on the Blackthorn Key from the apothecaries. I also think that the murderers could be killing apothecaries because the apothecaries know something the murderers do not want them to know. Since apothecaries are so good at codes and figuring things out I think the murderers are scared they are going to be reviled. Or the murderers simply do not like apothecaries.
There have been random deaths happening in London. I predict that the apothecaries are being murdered by some other apothecary in London. I think that Nathaniel Stubb is murdering other apothecaries. I think this for a couple of reasons. One reason that I think this is because Nathaniel Stubb is looking for a great curing recipe that an apothecary has created. I think that Nathaniel Stubb is killing these apothecaries to get into their recipes and find which apothecary has the curing recipe. In the book on page 40 it states, “How far would a man like Stubb go to get what he wanted? And why was he here, taunting Master Benedict about the murders? Did he know something about them?” This makes me think that Stubb is killing apothecaries to get the great curing recipe.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, I predict that apothecaries in London are being murdered because of their talents and knowledge. I think that Nathanial Stubb is killing other apothecaries. I think that he is doing it to get a recipe he doesn't have. On page 40 it says, "It was no secret that my master's business did well, and it was equally no secret that Stubb didn't like the competition." On the same page, it goes on to say, "No one took him seriously, but tonight it made me wonder: How far would a man like Stubb go to get what he wants?" This makes me think that Nathaniel Stubb is responsible for all of these killings in London.
ReplyDeleteMy opinion on why the apothecaries are bein murdered because of what they make. What they do may not have interest in what they do. But also they could have been stealing things from the wrong people. But in their defense it is to help people. Since apothecaries are so good at solving codes the murders probably thought they would revile the secrets or the murders found out secrets about them and though they should not be around anymore. All the nurse have to be connected in some way. But who ever did kill them probably had a motive to kill them.
ReplyDeleteDerrick,
ReplyDeleteMy opinion on why apothecaries are being murdered because of what they do. I think that the murderers want to know something that apothecaries know and create. I think that the murderers want to know something that apothecaries make.I think that the people or person that is killing the apothecaries. maybe the apothecaries are hiding a secret.
Josh Bloomfield
ReplyDeleteApothecaries were men who would make remedies and medicines for people in the 1700’s. I think the reason the apothecaries in London are being hunted is that this named “Cult of the Archangel” wants something that these guild members possess. I think the possession the “Cult of the Archangel” wants is a weapon because earlier on in the book Stub was referring to something called “the fire” that he couldn’t find. For example on pages 159 and 160 Chris listens in on a conversation between William Stubb and a young boy named Wat in his ransacked home which goes like this “Have you found anything?” Stubb said or are you just destroying this shop for the sake of it?” Wat ground his teeth, “It isn’t here” “ It has to be here. If you hadn’t killed Benedict so quickly, he would have told you where it was …”It wasn’t my fault. Wat sounded sullen ”He’d already poisoned himself before I could get anything out of him ” “Because you gave yourself away “ ”I didn’t!” Stubb looked scornful. “Yes, I’m sure Master Apothecary Benedict Blackthorn chewed maddapple by accident.”. After Chris realizes his master committed suicide he also realizes that the failed murderers were looking for something. So in the end I think that the Guild of the Archangel is looking for a certain recipe to build a weapon that only some apothecaries have and or know.
I think the reason all of these apothecaries are being murdered is that the cult of the archangel wants something. Money, or power. There could be a secret, a big one. Something has to be going on and Master Benedict might be involved. He knew one of the men that was murdered. Master Benedict does seem to be nervous and scared about something.
ReplyDeleteI think the murders are happening because the murderers want something and they are trying to look for it. When master benedict was killed, the people ransacked the workshop obviously looking for something, and they knew that Master Benedict knew where the thing was. So they killed him trying to find out where it was.
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ReplyDeleteI think that the apothecaries in London are being murdered because the Cult of the Archangel wants power to shape the world. I think this because on page 182, the book says, “That’s what the Cult of the archangel is looking for, the power of God Himself.” Also, in the book when Christopher goes back into Blackthorn, he over hears Wat and Nathanial Stubb talk about the ‘fire,’ which Christopher and Master Oswyn think is the key to unlocking this power. While Christopher and Tom were in the crypt in the garden, the mural of the Archangel had three holes each with symbols around them. Christopher already knows that to unlock the door behind the mural he must pour three different liquids in the holes. I think that behind the door is this ‘fire’ that the Cult of the Archangel wants.
I think that the Cult of the Archangel is murdering apothecaries because of the apothecaries talents and abilities. The apothecaries are very talented in making medicines and healing people. The Cult wants the apothecaries talents or power. On page 182 Oswyn says, “‘That’s what the Cult of the Archangel is looking for.’ He said. ‘The power of God Himself. Whatever this ‘fire’ is, clearly they believe it’s the key to unlocking it.’” The Cult wants the power of God and they think that the apothecaries have it or know how to get it. All the Cult wants is power and they are willing to kill innocent people in order to obtain it.
ReplyDeleteIn the beginning of the book, we find that people, more specifically apothecary’s, are being murdered. There has to be a reason behind these murders and it is up to Christopher to find out what it is. I think that the Cult of the Archangel is murdering apothecaries to find something very powerful that one of the apothecaries holds in their possession. The book states, “ ‘That’s what the Cult of the Archangel is looking for.’ He said. ‘The power of God Himself. Whatever this ‘fire’ is, clearly they believe it’s the key to unlocking it.’” The Cult of the Archangel was killing the apothecaries so they could have the power that the “fire” would bring.
ReplyDeleteI believe the apothecaries in London are being murdered because the murder(s) think that the apothecaries know something about the ‘fire’, like where it can be found, or what is needed to obtain it. In the book it says, “‘Why are they doing this? What do they want?’ He shrugged. ‘Same as everyone else. Power.’ ‘I don't understand.’ ‘Oswyn straightened in his chair. ‘Tell me. From where does the healing force of our remedies come?’ I felt like I was eleven again, sweating through the Apothecaries’ entrance exam. ‘From God.’ ‘Correct,’ Oswyn said…. ‘That’s what the Cult of the Archangel is looking for,’ he said. ‘The power of God Himself. Whatever this ‘fire’ is, clearly, they believe it’s the key to unlocking it.’ His eyes narrowed. ‘So that’s why the Cult is torturing its victims. These aren’t sacrifices, they’re interrogations. They must think these men know where the fire is.’ ‘But what would they do if they find it?’ I said. ‘What anyone would, with such power in their hands. Shape the world as they see fit.’” The Cult of the Archangel is mentioned twice, which leads me to believe they are the ones behind the murders, but a conversation between Nathaniel Stubb and a boy named Wat takes place earlier in the book. In chapter 15, it says, “It was Nathaniel Stubb. He gaped, aghast, at the mess. ‘Wat! What in the Nine Hells have you done?’ ‘What I was told to do,’ Wat said, sounding annoyed. ‘Look for the bloody fire.’... ‘Have you even found anything?’ Stubb said. ‘Or are you just destroying this shop for the sake of it?’ Wat ground his teeth. ‘It isn’t here.’ ‘It has to be here. If you hadn’t killed Benedict so quickly, he would have told you where it was.’” This conversation brings the possibility that Nathaniel Stubb had been and/or is working with the Cult of the Archangel in order to murder apothecaries, trying to find the ‘fire’ in the process.
ReplyDeleteThe apothecaries are being murdered all over.The apothecaries mite know something about the fire. I also think that the apothecaries have something that the murders want.In the text it says " Whatever this fire is, clearly they believe it's the key to unlocking it." I used this piece of text because in that sentence they say that the fire is the key.If my first prediction is wrong then I think that the apothecaries mite have something the murders want.The murders definitely want something.
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ReplyDeleteIn the book "The Black Thorn Key", there are currently murders happening in England. These murders are mainly targeting apothecary's. I think that the murderers are looking for something. I also think that the man behind it is Nathaniel Stubb. One of the reasons I think this are on pg. 119, "'My dispute with Benedict is well known, sir. He was stealing my secrets. By the laws of our guild, I'm entitled to fair compensation.'" This is a lie in the book and the only reason he would lie is to get something out of it. Earlier in the book Stubb also wanted to buy Benedict's shop, I think he did this so he wouldn't have to kill Benedict.
Derrick Caldwell,
ReplyDeleteIn the book "The black thorn key", there are murders mainly on apothecaries. I think that apothecaries are being murdered because of a colt. I think that because of some people don't like apothecaries. I think that there is a colt because it is anonymous people that do this. I think that Stubb has something to do with the murdering. I think this because he wanted to buy his house.
Both the fictional and the real world situations are based off of someone's power, or money. The Cult of the Archangel wants the key to more power. Oswyn is asked what does the Cult want on page 181,and he responds by saying "The same has everyone else. Power." The need for power has shown to be a powerful motivator in many different events. The key to more power is hidden by the apothecaries, so in order to gain information the apothecaries are interrogated then killed. The Cult may see the apothecaries has a block in their need for power. I believe that the Cult kills the apothecaries because, to the Cult, the apothecaries are blocking their ultimate goal.
ReplyDeleteI think that the apothecaries are getting murdered because of their skills and their knowledge. I believe that Nathaniel Stubb is one of the murderers. I also believe that he wants to find something for a potion. One thing that lead me to believing it is Nathaniel Stubb is because on page 26 it states "Did you hear?" Stubb said "There's been another murder" He smiled. This brings me to believe that stubb is the murder because he smiled when he said "There's been another murder"
ReplyDeleteI think that the apothecaries are being murdered in order for the murder(s) to steal their victims recipes and remedies. I think this because some humans are greedy and want more money, and if the murder(s) had the victims recipes and remedies they could make a lot more money. One of these "greedy" people is Nathaniel Stubb. I think this because in the book it says, "'Change is coming, Benedict,' he said. 'You want to be on the right side this time.' 'I don't have a side Nathaniel,' my master said. 'these squabbles don't involve me' 'Perhaps gold will, then. With the right connections, the right backing, we could make a fortune-.' 'Money is not the issue,' Master Benedict said(I think is should be interrupted). 'I have no part in any of this. You have the wrong man.” Stubb snorted, 'Pretend all you like. You’ll choose one way or the other.' There was a pause, 'Is that a threat?'my master said(In my opinion it should be questioned)." Then Master Benedict gets beat up the next night, and i think it was Stubb who did it.
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ReplyDeleteI predict the “Cult of the Archangel” is murdering the apothecaries in London. I also predict Nathaniel Stubb is working with the “Cult of the Archangel”. I don’t think apothecaries are getting killed randomly either. According to the author it says, “Three of the six were right, Benedict, … We can no longer tell ourselves this is a coincidence. If Stubb can figure us out there is only a matter of time before others do.” This shows that the so called “random” murders aren’t so random anymore. Another thing that I predict is that apothecaries are getting killed because they know codes. I also think that the murder or murders are trying to find the code and therefore are going to force apothecary to unlock the code. If the apothecary doesn’t tell what the code is, then I think that the murder will burn them until they release the code or let them burn to death. I think this because on page 85 a man said, “God’s wrath will burn us all!” This could shows tell us the “Cult of the Archangel” is burning apothecaries. Therefore, I predict that the “Cult of the Archangel” and Nathaniel Stubb are working together to find a code only apothecaries know and force the apothecaries to unlock the code.
Trinity H.-
ReplyDeleteI think the apothecaries are being murdered for something they have. I know that Stubb really wants Benedict's shop, and the things in it, and will do anything to get it. So I think it's perfectly logical that the other apothecaries had competitors as well, (Either Stubb as well or somebody else in the Cult of Archangels) who may have killed them in the process of looking for something. I also know that rivalry is somewhat prominent in The Blackthorn Key, as evident by Stubb and Benedict. There's also the possibility that the other apothecaries' stuff and shops were sabotaged by rivals, killing the other apothecary in the process. These are the only things I can think of at the moment.
Jesse P.
ReplyDeleteI think Apothecaries are being murdered because the murders are trying to find a secret recipe. They are killing other Apothecaries to find the secret recipe. I think the recipe is written in a secret code because on page 11-12 you see Christopher and Tom looking at weird words and numbers that follows the alphabet. They are also talking about it being a code and deciphering it into the gunpowder recipe. The murderers also seem to be only killing apothecaries therefore leading me to believe that whatever they seem to be looking for, they do not know who has the code other than an apothecary. At some point I would think the murderers will come to Master Benedict since he owns an apothecary.
Ellie S.
ReplyDeleteI think that apothecaries in London are being murdered because they have something that the murderers want. I think that Nathaniel Stubb is working with, or is a part of the “Cult of Archangel”. In the book, Christopher overhears Stubb talking with Master Blackthorn. Stubb talks about change coming and that they better be on the right side. That sounds threatening. I think that Stubb could be one of the murderers and Master Blackthorn has something that he wants.
I think apothecaries in London are being murdered because someone wants to make life really hard for everyone else. Apothecaries are people that help others through medicine like remedies. They use their talents to make life easier and less painful for people to live, much like doctors today. I also feel that Stubb is part of the organization that is killing apothicaires. I feel this way because Stubb almost seems amused that so many apothecaries are being killed. In the text it states, “And why was he here, taunting Master Benedict about the murders? Did he know something about them. “ This shows that Stubb is being very mysterious. It gives me the feeling that he does know something about the murders.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion I thing the reason why apothecaries are being murdered is that the apothecaries are hiding something that villains want to use for great evil. The reason why I think of this is because the title's name is "The Blackthorn's Key". Which to me means that the shop Blackthorn is hiding something. But i also think that all of the apothecaries have a little "puzzle piece" that unlocks something great and powerful and/or gold.Finally I also think that the apothecaries have something to do with the king. That is what I conclude about this question.
I think they are being killed because they have something the murderers want. I think that because apothecaries were powerful and knew things things others didn't. They could also be murdering because they know who they are. If they were found they would be killed. They probably didn't want to die. But that is probably not what it is because they probably would be found already.
ReplyDeleteI think the apothecaries are being murdered because The Cult of The Archangels wants people to fear them and they want power this is stated on page 181 and 182 when Christopher asks “Why are they doing this? What do they want?” and Oswyn answers with a shrug “The same as everyone else.Power.” This the cult is killing simply because they want to be feared and they want power over everyone. Apothecaries also have the power to create elixirs and medicines to help people. I also believe that the code that Master Benedict left behind has some of the answer as well.
ReplyDeleteI think that apothecaries are being murdered in London because of their knowledge and ability/talents to make spells and potions. I suppose that Nathaniel Stubb is one of the murderers of the apothecaries in London. I also believe that Nathaniel Stubb is murdering apothecaries because he wants to find ingredients for potions and spells in their shops. On page 26, it read, "Did you hear?" Stubb said, "There's been another murder" He smiled. This part of the book lead me towards believing that Nathaniel Stubb is one of the murderers. Since Nathaniel smiled after he said the there had been a another murder, to me that made him look more suspicious to be one of the murderers.
ReplyDeleteI think that the reason that apothecaries are being murdered day the cult is because of there knowlage of the people and there views. The redone this would make the cult angry is because this could give away their identity. Another reason I think that the cult is killing apothecaries is because they want power, as the author says "'that's what the cult of Archangel is looking for(power)"' this shows that the cult wants power and that's why they are killing apothecaries.
ReplyDeleteI think apothecaries are being murdered because of there competition and knowledge . People may be afraid because apothecaries can do things other people can't and they know a lot more than other people do. Apothecary's get payed for there medicines and things they make. However, apothecaries may be afraid or worried of their clients transferring to other apothecaries. By limiting peoples choices of where to go can get some of the shops more clients. All in all, I think earthier apothecaries are murdering apothecaries or it may be just a random person.
ReplyDeleteI think that apothecaries are being murdered in London because of their knowledge and ability/talents to make spells and potions. I come to believe that Nathaniel Stubb is the one murdering apothecaries in London. Stubb will go far lengths to get what he wants. Which makes me suspect that he could be one of the murders. An indication i have of this is in the book when it says “Did you hear?” Stubb said. “There’s been another murder.” He smiled.”.
ReplyDeleteA brief predication as to why apothearies in London are being murdered is due mainly to their intelligence, power and how others fear them.
ReplyDeleteI think the apothecaries in London are being murdered since the murders must be craving for power. Since the apothecaries are very smart and powerful, the murderers need to get them out of the way so the can have complete control and be very wealthy.
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ReplyDeleteOne prediction I have about why London apothecaries are being murdered, is that it is being done by other apothecaries. I believe that maybe apothecaries are killing their competitors so they will get more customers. Apothecaries mights kill off the rival store owners in their area so those customers will have to go to their shop instead. One piece of evidence to support this theory is just how suspicious and jealous Stubb is through the book. This is giving me the feeling that maybe Stubb would go as far to kill his competitor, just out of jealousy. Another theory I have is that maybe it is being done by angered customers. For example maybe a customer had a bad reaction to their medicine and was so angered that they went as far to murder their apothecary. I am excited to keep reading and reveal the truth about why the apothecaries are being murdered.